Re: NEW GALLERIES

[vlad78]

you're not overly negative , you are just pointing toward the fact we can't prove we digged in the right direction, merely we provide a theory which gives sense to every if not all plotholes.

What does it mean to the narrative?
It means the 3 elements needed to find Ilos were discovered by Cerberus against all odds ALMOST at the same time = nearly after Sovereign awoke and failed to open the citadel relay.

But what makes me think those events are more than just reaper schemes lies with the fact ExoGeni landed its Zhu's hope colony precisely ON the Thorian location as if they knew where it was. Reapers never found the Thorian. They never even noticed it.
Furthermore Binary Helix found the last Rachni Queen in existence while we have proof only the leviathan could control them. Queens are immune or resistant to reaper indoctrination. In the whole galaxy, BH found the last egg precisely at the same time the beacon and the thorian were found as if someone knew where to look. It looks extremely unlikely the reapers were behind those discoveries.

We have solid proofs that Binary Helix and ExoGeni are tied to Cerberus in ME1. In fact, Cerberus is almost everywhere in ME1.

Mc walters comics give evidences the Cerberus story arc is not dropped but further expanded:
- TIM knew sovereign and someone like Saren would come.
- Cerberus watched Saren, never really tried to stop him but never helping him either.
- Those comics even show the specter dossiers which are imho the medium used by Saren to notice all Cerberus discoveries.


CW ideas about Ilos being a goose chase designed to trap Sovereign is still a possibility.

But what interests me the most is the relationship between Leviathan and Harbinger. Are they enemies, do they play good cop and bad cop?
Could Harbinger, the gestalt of all leviathan civilization, having a separate agenda from the other reapers?

[smash016]

For people who never thought about this, it will be impressive.

However for us, it's such a tiny detail.

So if Cerberus was involved at Eden Prime, what does this imply? What does it mean for the narrative?

Also, it's possible it's a retcon, right? Firewalker DLC provides evidence in hindsight for Manuel having ties with Cerberus. That doesn't necessarily mean he already had during ME1, or that BW had already thought about it when writing ME1. Is there any data specifically from ME1 that hints at Manuel and Warren being more than ordinary scientists?

Sorry if I'm being negative but I've always wondered if Manuel from Firewalker isn't just an example of continuity porn.

[vlad78]

I changed the last picture and added a new one.

[vlad78]

Thoughts?

[vlad78]

So what up? Still working on a new gallery?

Yep but my job contract is ending so I'm moving, family is growing, therfore I don't have much time to dedicate to it.
In december progress should be made.

[smash016]

So what up? Still working on a new gallery?

[smash016]

Well, like you always say, walls of texts are difficult sometimes, so without the pictures, this is a lot to swallow, even for me.

- It IS the same Manuel, I'd call it a fact, not a suspicion.

- During the Firewalker mission, it's said he has "Cerberus ties" and more reserved descriptions like that, so I sometimes felt like Manuel wasn't part of Cerberus at all, but that Cerberus was chasing him to get a hold of his research or his knowledge, and is using Shepard to that end. But I could be wrong. Is there any evidence he's actually working for Cerberus?

- Be sure to compare BH's logo to Cerberus'.

- And I have to say it would be very elegant if Cerberus was also behind the EP beacon and Manuel's research team. So if you have enough evidence for it... it could work.

[vlad78]

Then I'll tackle the subject about Cerberus allegiance and how it is totally ambigious.

[vlad78]

I'll post hear my next galleries waiting for your feedbacks.

Next one will be about the scientists on EP in order to show how cerberus infiltrated them OR they belong directly to Cerberus. After all no coporation name has been given but Manuel is there and there's a deep suspicions he's the same character as the one in the hammerhead dlc.

Then I'll show the same pattern appears concerning Binary helix. (theft of alien tech (noveria when asari are investigating), datapad showing BH gave rachni to Cerberus, forbidden experiments putting staff at risk)

I think I will add a picture with scientists from ExoGeni, EP and Binary Helix who all have honeycombs on their cloth, reminding the viewer in ME1 no other corporation do show those honeycombs and all 3 are involved in the dicovery of a piece of the puzzle leading to Ilos  AT THE SAME TIME.

I will highlight the fact that this time things are a little different because of Saren's involvement. But my goal will be to show Saren being a shareholder does not mean everything is in the reapers' hand, far from it.
I will do that by showing both the thorian and the rachni and the protheans are all suspected of being levi creations and thralls and the thorian's mind, the queen's mind and the prothean beacon all need an asari to be used or understood (for the prothean beacon, Benezia or Liara are needed to understand the vision speaks about Ilos), asari who we also suspect to be levi current thralls.

Then I will return to the subject about Saren and Benezia.
I'll show Benezia, the bee queen went willingly to Saren, knowing (or feeling) this would probably be a suicide mission, taking only volonteers with her, preparing part of her mind to resist indoctrination.

I'll speculate how did Saren become aware of the discovery of the prothean beacon, the thorian and the Rachni queen = probably through the specter dossiers.
This could mean the council was aware of all 3 things.
If the council was aware, then Benezia was aware of it too. and she could have been the one who allowed Saren to become a shareholder of Binary Helix.

In fact Saren was unknowingly treading on levi territory all along and would have been able to act without leviathan allowing him to.

Or Cerberus could have informed him of everything but...
How could Cerberus have found the thorian which eluded protheans and reapers for millenias, the last rachni queen drifitng on a derelict ship in space and the prothean beacon AT THE SAME TIME without a little help from the squid?

Thoughts?

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